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Super Saiyan Gogeta VS Hirudegarn (Second Form)
Topic Started: Aug 18 2013, 02:23 AM (3,304 Views)
Augahn
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Astrian

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Aug 20 2013, 04:02 AM
I'm not sure when fighting skills have mattered much.
The only way to win secondly would be to have more power than Gogeta. Ion see that happenin with the boys
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+ Havoc_Wreaker
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ssj3 gotenks v gogeta ssj and cannon

ummm.....sorry no matter how much skill u have u cant cover that gap


fighting skills don seem to matter much in z compared to db

freeza v goku prime example, not only was goku stronger but vastly superiorly skilled and better techinques
but freeza put up a good fight, why? plot
things like this are seen throughout z granted in times it did play a small factor
but for the most part skill does not matter as much as it did in db
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IllogicalGlory
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SSJ Gogeta (canon) is like a flea compared to SSJ3 Gotenks. Skill makes no difference when your opponent is literally ten times stronger, or whatever, depending on your multipliers.
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Not really. I used to be a big believer in fighting skills, but it just seems not to be the factor in some of the important fights. Poop.

It's mainly power, sadly.
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IllogicalGlory
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Furious

In a world where having even 10% more power than your opponent makes beating them very easy, there's very little room for skill to come into play.
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EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Even SSJ3 Gogeta (Canon) being stronger than SSj3 Gotenks is questionable, SSJ Gogeta has absolutely no chance against SSj3 Gotenks.
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Depends on your fusion method. Mine makes Mssj Gogeta a match for ssj3 Gotenks.
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RealSociedad
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Which Gogeta? If it is Movie 13 Gogeta he completely stomps Hirudegarn. If this is Movie 12 of canon Gogeta, he would get one shotted.

In movie 13:

SSJ Gogeta>> Hirudegarn (2nd form)> Goku SSJ3>> Gotenks SSJ3> Hirudegarn (1st form)> Mystic Gohan.

In movie 12 and canon (using Hirudegarn in it)

Hirudegarn (2nd form)> Buuhan> Hirudegarn 1st form ~ SSJ3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan> SSJ3 Gotenks> SSJ Gogeta>>>>>> SSJ3 Goku.
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Takada San
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Aug 19 2013, 07:50 PM
Takada San
Aug 19 2013, 07:35 PM
SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks
Movie-wise, yes.
Manga wise and I see no reason why M12 Gogeta would be equal to Manga Gogeta
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Takada San
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Aug 20 2013, 04:15 AM
Even SSJ3 Gogeta (Canon) being stronger than SSj3 Gotenks is questionable, SSJ Gogeta has absolutely no chance against SSj3 Gotenks.
Are you serious? SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks

The difference between the adults to the kids is massive and the difference beween Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger and the rivals boots
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EMIYA
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Takada San
Aug 20 2013, 02:12 PM
Brofist
Aug 20 2013, 04:15 AM
Even SSJ3 Gogeta (Canon) being stronger than SSj3 Gotenks is questionable, SSJ Gogeta has absolutely no chance against SSj3 Gotenks.
Are you serious? SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks

The difference between the adults to the kids is massive and the difference beween Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger and the rivals boots
Yes I'm serious, must I write you a book? The difference between Pre-ROSAT Gotenks and Gogeta was nothing spectacularly large, certainly nothing more than 10x difference for Gogeta and that's being damn generous to him as well. Post-ROSAT Gotenks attained such a massive increase that his base form surpassed his own Pre-SSJ form. That is a massive increase and considering the multipliers that people use for SSJ, that often runs between a 10x increase and a whopping 50x increase.

You add in the multiplier for SSj2 an SSj3 and there's no way in hell Canon SSJ Gogeta is coming anywhere near SSj3 Gotenks. You have to push it to even get SSj3 Gogeta passed Gotenks.
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Cid
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I am going to have to go with Hirudegarn. Here are my gaps



Hirudegarn >>>> Ssj3 Gotenks > Ssj Gogeta

Hirudegarn b*** slapped Ssj3 Gotenks straight out of fusion, who should be > Ssj Gogeta, So Hirudegarn takes this.
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If its for the movie Gogeta can win this,but canon Gogeta even in SSj3 he gets beat up badly :)
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